‘Could you define What Freedom means to you in 1 or 2 sentences’. I carried these people into the discussion through their responses. The content clustering revealed-
70% of the respondents wanted to do things or live for self without fear or compulsion (internal or external) or conscience ! .
To need no apology, be able to act on subconscious urges .
The rest had various views--
Mind free of complexes, fear, prejudices, preconceived ideas.
Speaking one’s mind/expressing oneself without compulsion.
A smaller subset viewed freedom as internalized responsibility in sync with the larger good.
Freedom from reaction to life or living fearlessly
A myth.
Freedom from desires.
Self sustainability.
On the contrary kids wanted happiness and smile and share heritage freely.
This by no means defines all but it surely kicked up a dynamic question.
What is freedom ? From what and to what end ?
Carefully observed, most people want a freedom to live life on their terms at a material, concrete level and only then arises the concern for the other. Maslowian pyramid of self fulfillment is a fact of human mind. But when all bodies live their own life, why this need for freedom?
As life evolves in opposites, perhaps examining the inimical BONDAGE will explain it.
So the human situation is where—
Absolute freedom is a utopia. All action and reaction is in context of humans and bound in spacetime. The genetic pattern and loading already sets the blueprint of behaviour and health.
So a fresh human life on planet Earth is biologically and physically bound, a part of its destiny is predetermined. So what remains is relative or perceived freedom.
And then starts a complex interplay of nurture and nature to influence the end product -a free or a bound mind.
Freedom is after all a metaphor, and mind is about abstracting this metaphor. Given the underpinnings of temperament, these metaphors are interpreted variously.
Imagine Krishna sermonizing Buddha, instead of Arjuna (he was also a kshatriya ) in the Mahabharata. I am sure at the end of it Buddha would have given a respectful bow to Krishna and excused himself.
Examples galore where people have sought ways in life for the same goal.
Acting on this blueprint are social, economic and above all religious influences creating what we call CONDITIONING of mind. Lives are spend in either following or fighting the maze of this conditioning.
Let us look at the its precursors….
Religion assigned from birth is the strongest chain for the mind. It never allows people to be what they are. Providing a societal structure, it always exhorts one to become something else. In the process pointing at weaknesses and creating guilt in Homo sapiens.
It is exactly what Freud broke... Rid yourself of the guilt arising out of Victorian morality. Many later philosophers and psychologists in their own time focused on it.
Following close on heels are teachings, some from evolved but mostly from half baked minds, which masses believe due to lack of critical thinking..
The rest is all experiential. Teachers, subjects, parents and media as the new influence
all mix up with one’s own desires, ambition and compulsions to create a real (or surreal) anxiety of being bound and not free.
‘Be this’ and ‘be that’ or ‘ become something’. An average child hears ‘no’ 400 times a day .
Such a conditioned adult struggles all his life and probably questions, towards the end about the gain.
All this is known rhetoric, then why bother?
Because the subconscious feel of being bound creates tremendous overt and covert misery.
Then why don’t people free themselves? Because fear and guilt add a burden to already existing chains.
Even if the heart desires, the mind is afraid of the unknown .
The fear of treading into an unexplored territory creates a blockade, an inertia in most minds.
Heels are cooled in the shadow of false, erroneous tested world rather than walking on hot coals of doubt.
The known and experienced is safe and false sense of security makes them continue .
False because the mind forgets that what is being held to mind so dearly is also temporary and it all will end, anyways sooner or later. No one will live eternally, there is nothing to lose. Yet even if one overcomes this fear, the guilt of going against the moralistic teachings and conditioning halts them.
The average mind is unable to throw off these shackles And continues to languish in the chained prison of mind, fantasizing for some illusory freedom.
Only a few minds in the history of mankind have had the guts of iron and nerves of steel to attempt to rise above the conditioning, fear, guilt and taste the real freedom, freedom of thought.
And they were persistent in discovering and going beyond SELF. The great movements set in by them, helped the masses and glorified lives .
This is self actualization and its reflection shines upon us.
Is their a way to shape the future?
Set young minds free. Train them in critical thinking. Allow them to doubt and question. and wait for the change they bring.
For a future human who is ---
Fearless in mind, self actualized and carries humanity forward.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:12 AM, alok bajpai
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Here's the blog
http://alokbajpai.blogspot.com
A ‘DHAROHAR ‘ INITIATIVE
AN HOUR WITH THE MAHATMA
An interactive multi-media presentation on Bapu for teachers and children
Inputs in the form of stories,sketches, bhajans are welcome
45MIN – 1HOUR
Anchored by Dr Alok Bajpai
Just an LCD projector and sound system provided by you will suffice.
And of course …….. 60 minutes
Contact: Mr. Arun Bajpai----- 9415127848
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Sure bhai.
Thanx for corrections. Historical sense itself is underdeveloped in schools.
Will be in touch
Alok
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On 11/15/09, Akshay Bakaya अक्षय बक़ाया
> Dear Alok Bhai,
>
> Great initiative - a respected professional psychiatrist like you taking
> Gandhi to school children. It will make a difference, and your new blog
> (where 'dusra na koi' seems a guiding principle) will enable wider
> participation.
>
> If you search "Ahimsa Finds Teen Voice" you'll see a *Telegraph* article
> where Priya Dutt announced her action plan with Rahul Gandhi to take Mahatma
> Gandhi to schools. I'd met Arjun Singh with Sanjay Kapoor earlier and the
> minister too had promised the same. But I wonder how seriously the Congress
> is taking this idea?
>
> Asking Indian students here (aged 15-18) about Gandhi, I was appalled to see
> how little they'd learnt. They didn't know the group of assassins were
> Hindutva ideologues (Savarkar to Godses), that the present Sangh Parivar are
> moved by the same urges. Please tell kids if they search "Mahatma Gandhi: A
> Death For Peace" they can watch this documentary - the only film with an
> on-camera interview of (87-year) old Gopal Godse, proud to have participated
> in the murder. I believe Godse's ideology must be studied and analysed, not
> hidden from kids.
>
> http://www.gandhitopia.org/video/a-death-for-peace-mahatma
>
> It took a blockbuster (Lage Raho Munna Bhai) to make Gandhi acceptable in
> drawing rooms. To prop up the Ahimsa Day resolution, minister Anand Sharma
> felt a need to project this film at the UN general assembly on 15 June 2007
> when the UNGA adopted the idea (modifying the 30th Jan proposal to 2nd Oct,
> of course).
>
> So, Hindutva-vadis apart, I wonder if the Congress leadership itself is
> comfortable with the idea of the young taking Gandhi seriously - symbolic
> obeisance and ceremonial commemoration seems enough, for actual state policy
> makes short shrift of Gandhian ideals. (and why change the date from 30th
> Jan to 2nd October, if one is serious about reflecting on Godse's Hindutva?)
>
> I've made some small changes (in red below) in your declaration of intent,
> mainly corrections of a typographical nature. If you find these changes ok,
> just put the text in black again and upload again.
>
> Seeing your conclusion, I was reminded of Tagore's poem "Where the mind is
> without fear and the head is held high, Where knowledge is free..." which
> had greatly moved me when I was a schoolboy, though, being raised by
> atheists, the appeal to (a male) God in the last line bothered me! Do make
> sure you get kids to read and reflect on it !
>
> Reading what you say about the Bhagawat Gita, I remember my despair in 6th
> grade Hindi, when I found the call to violence won the argument! I suspected
> our violent Hindi teacher (though her name was 'Daya') of having twisted the
> story. Evidence of a disposition for the Gandhian or Buddhist choice in a
> child's mind..?
>
> Your concerns seem similar to Salman Akhtar's (click below), also a
> psychiatrist, poet (and Jan Nisar Akhtar's son like Javed Akhtar). You must
> have read his educative inaugural lecture in Delhi, which is well within the
> reach of young minds I think.
>
> http://www.sabrang.com/cc/archive/2005/sep05/perspective.html
>
> Your concerns (what a relief) also match those of the NCERT led by Krishna
> Kumar and the teams he put together. And of independent activists like
> Arvind Gupta, a professional like you from (IIT) Kanpur !
>
> All the best and keep in touch !
>
> Yours ever,
>
> Akshay
>
> P.S. Charu, I'm copying this to you (and several others with similar
> concerns) especially since you wrote that front-page piece ("Ahimsa Finds
> Teen Voice", Telegraph, 30 Jan 2006) quoting intellectuals and Congress
> leaders. Could I request you to forward this (especially my question) to
> Priya Dutt and other young Congress leaders - Jyotiraditya, Rahul...?
>
>
> Alok Bajpai's text, with small corrections:
>
>
> Chaupal, an informal meeting of a motley group which meets once in a month
> in Mumbai and brainstorms on a pre-decided issue discussed Freedom on 16th
> August 2009. What does it mean to you? As a participant speaker I did a
> random research and shot off a question on sms to a cross section of people.
> ‘Could you define What Freedom means to you in 1 or 2 sentences’. I carried
> these people into the discussion through their responses. The content
> clustering revealed-
>
> 70% of the respondents wanted to do things or live for self without fear or
> compulsion (internal or external) or conscience ! .
> To need no apology, be able to act on subconscious urges .
> The rest had various views--
> Mind free of complexes, fear, prejudices, preconceived ideas.
> Speaking one’s mind/expressing oneself without compulsion.
> A smaller subset viewed freedom as internalized responsibility in sync with
> the larger good.
> Freedom from reaction to life or living fearlessly
> A myth.
> Freedom from desires.
> Self sustainability.
> On the contrary kids wanted happiness and smile and share heritage freely.
>
> This by no means defines all but it surely kicked up a dynamic question.
> What is freedom ? From what and to what end ?
>
> Carefully observed, most people want a freedom to live life on their terms
> at a material, concrete level and only then arises the concern for the
> other. Maslowian pyramid of self fulfillment is a fact of human mind. But
> when all bodies live their own life, why this need for freedom?
> As life evolves in opposites, perhaps examining the inimical BONDAGE will
> explain it.
>
> So the human situation is where—
> Absolute freedom is a utopia. All action and reaction is in context of
> humans and bound in spacetime. The genetic pattern and loading already sets
> the blueprint of behaviour and health.
> So a fresh human life on planet Earth is biologically and physically bound,
> a part of its destiny is predetermined. So what remains is relative or
> perceived freedom.
> And then starts a complex interplay of nurture and nature to influence the
> end product -a free or a bound mind.
>
> Freedom is after all a metaphor, and mind is about abstracting this
> metaphor. Given the underpinnings of temperament, these metaphors are
> interpreted variously.
> Imagine Krishna sermonizing Buddha, instead of Arjuna (he was also a
> kshatriya ) in the Mahabharata. I am sure at the end of it Buddha would
> have given a respectful bow to Krishna and excused himself.
> Examples galore where people have sought ways in life for the same goal.
>
> Acting on this blueprint are social, economic and above all religious
> influences creating what we call CONDITIONING of mind. Lives are spend in
> either following or fighting the maze of this conditioning.
> Let us look at the its precursors….
> Religion assigned from birth is the strongest chain for the mind. It never
> allows people to be what they are. Providing a societal structure, it always
> exhorts one to become something else. In the process pointing at weaknesses
> and creating guilt in Homo sapiens.
> It is exactly what Freud broke... Rid yourself of the guilt arising out of
> Victorian morality. Many later philosophers and psychologists in their own
> time focused on it.
> Following close on heels are teachings, some from evolved but mostly from
> half baked minds, which masses believe due to lack of critical thinking..
> The rest is all experiential. Teachers, subjects, parents and media as the
> new influence
> all mix up with one’s own desires, ambition and compulsions to create a real
> (or surreal) anxiety of being bound and not free.
>
> ‘Be this’ and ‘be that’ or ‘ become something’. An average child hears ‘no’
> 400 times a day .
> Such a conditioned adult struggles all his life and probably questions,
> towards
> the end about the gain.
>
> All this is known rhetoric, then why bother?
> Because the subconscious feel of being bound creates tremendous overt and
> covert misery.
>
> Then why don’t people free themselves? Because fear and guilt add a burden
> to already existing chains.
>
> Even if the heart desires, the mind is afraid of the unknown .
> The fear of treading into an unexplored territory creates a blockade, an
> inertia in most minds.
> Heels are cooled in the shadow of false, erroneous tested world rather than
> walking on hot coals of doubt.
> The known and experienced is safe and false sense of security makes them
> continue .
> False because the mind forgets that what is being held to mind so dearly is
> also temporary and it all will end, anyways sooner or later. No one will
> live eternally, there is nothing to lose. Yet even if one overcomes this
> fear,
> the guilt of going against the moralistic teachings and conditioning halts
> them.
>
> The average mind is unable to throw off these shackles And continues to
> languish in the chained prison of mind, fantasizing for some illusory
> freedom.
>
> Only a few minds in the history of mankind have had the guts of iron and
> nerves of steel to attempt to rise above the conditioning, fear, guilt and
> taste the real freedom, freedom of thought.
>
> And they were persistent in discovering and going beyond SELF. The great
> movements set in by them, helped the masses and glorified lives .
> This is self actualization and its reflection shines upon us.
>
> Is their a way to shape the future?
>
> Set young minds free. Train them in critical thinking. Allow them to doubt
> and question. and wait for the change they bring.
>
> For a future human who is ---
> Fearless in mind, self actualized and carries humanity forward.
>
>
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